It has become abundantly clear that Steve Hays thinks he can appeal to completely unverifiable and undefinable concepts in a debate over Theology Proper. When I accuse him of worshiping three gods, he simply appeals to anthropomorphic tri-theism and thus over-rules any inquiry into his view by falling back on the unverifiability and undefinability of his words. He claims that eternal generation cannot be true because it is a metaphor. I ask him what he means by metaphor and he simply cops out by saying that the Bible does not define metaphor. Thus any dialogue with this man is a waste of time. I went to great trouble to read through his Trinitarian writings. I spent over a month reading through all of his material and writinging a summary of his debates with Dale Tuggy. The man has not dealt with even a fraction of my material. I appreciate that he had the guts to allow these issues to be placed before his blog forum publicly, but his replies were terribly unconvincing, vague and dismissive. I have much bigger issues to deal with right now. I have no more time for Steve’s games.
Steve Hays and Special Pleading Wednesday, Dec 26 2012
Theology Proper and Triadology 5:23 pm
I have to agree with you. From what I have read, he has made some very sub-biblical posts over this issue as of late……really lowering the value of his Blog. His replies have been, from what I have seen, full of fallacies. Although, I don’t necessarily agree with every single reply from you, to him, nevertheless, you handled yourself much more credibly. For him to have such an overall dismissive attitude about such a serious doctrine, and the history of it, hurts his credibility.
Still working through the new orientation of beginning with the monarchy of the Father, a Person, as GOD, which is clearly Biblical and far less confusing than starting with an impersonal abstract essence.
I take note of some of the things you pointed out considering worship and the filioque as well as propositional truth.